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		<title>By: nathan</title>
		<link>http://nathandiehl.com/2007/03/13/i-dont-know-people/#comment-445</link>
		<dc:creator>nathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2007 17:26:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It has been said,
'They don't care how much you know until they know how much you care.'</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It has been said,<br />
&#8216;They don&#8217;t care how much you know until they know how much you care.&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: joe</title>
		<link>http://nathandiehl.com/2007/03/13/i-dont-know-people/#comment-444</link>
		<dc:creator>joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2007 16:46:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said, Ryan!

This is a lesson I have been learning as well. I can't relate to people for the sake of "converting" them. I need to learn to relate to them because they are human and I am genuinely interested in them.

If I really care about them, truly care, then their "eternal destination" will come up, but it won't be the driving force behind befriending them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said, Ryan!</p>
<p>This is a lesson I have been learning as well. I can&#8217;t relate to people for the sake of &#8220;converting&#8221; them. I need to learn to relate to them because they are human and I am genuinely interested in them.</p>
<p>If I really care about them, truly care, then their &#8220;eternal destination&#8221; will come up, but it won&#8217;t be the driving force behind befriending them.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Middleton</title>
		<link>http://nathandiehl.com/2007/03/13/i-dont-know-people/#comment-434</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan Middleton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2007 18:05:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just posted a comment recently, but I might add a few bits and pieces on here. I am commenting on behalf of all those who have written something thus far concerning this topic. 
 
I would add that one should not purposely talk to someone on behalf of trying to "convert" them to a faith. Talking to them to just provide a listening body is the key. The work you provide here will allow an opening for you to share later. I used to be apart of that group Nathan talked about, in that all my friends were members of the church, but now this is not the case. I go to a liberal school with diverse thinking. I pride myself in that I talk to many people everyday. They are not all christians, but that is ok. I let them open up to me and tell me things that THEY  want to tell me. Once you start looking for ways to share to them, you miss out on what is really being said. 

I used to think, everytime I talked to a "non-christian" once they are done talking to me, I will pounce in with my thoughts on how to better the situation - God. This is not the answer, the greatest pastors are not out in Starbucks preaching, they are not in Home Depot giving a sermon, they are out and about listening and lending a shoulder to lean on. People find out what a great person you are by watching you, not by telling them how great you are. 

You might think about this: Your circle of friends and Family may be christians because they saw what joy was brought into their life from someone else. Keyword - saw. You may have an effect on someone everytime you go to starbucks or the person behind every counter by being who you are. Light shines through objects, not from any one spot (like a mouth). Let the light shine through you and the rest will follow. 

That's all folks...

Ryan Middleton</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just posted a comment recently, but I might add a few bits and pieces on here. I am commenting on behalf of all those who have written something thus far concerning this topic. </p>
<p>I would add that one should not purposely talk to someone on behalf of trying to &#8220;convert&#8221; them to a faith. Talking to them to just provide a listening body is the key. The work you provide here will allow an opening for you to share later. I used to be apart of that group Nathan talked about, in that all my friends were members of the church, but now this is not the case. I go to a liberal school with diverse thinking. I pride myself in that I talk to many people everyday. They are not all christians, but that is ok. I let them open up to me and tell me things that THEY  want to tell me. Once you start looking for ways to share to them, you miss out on what is really being said. </p>
<p>I used to think, everytime I talked to a &#8220;non-christian&#8221; once they are done talking to me, I will pounce in with my thoughts on how to better the situation - God. This is not the answer, the greatest pastors are not out in Starbucks preaching, they are not in Home Depot giving a sermon, they are out and about listening and lending a shoulder to lean on. People find out what a great person you are by watching you, not by telling them how great you are. </p>
<p>You might think about this: Your circle of friends and Family may be christians because they saw what joy was brought into their life from someone else. Keyword - saw. You may have an effect on someone everytime you go to starbucks or the person behind every counter by being who you are. Light shines through objects, not from any one spot (like a mouth). Let the light shine through you and the rest will follow. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s all folks&#8230;</p>
<p>Ryan Middleton</p>
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		<title>By: nathan</title>
		<link>http://nathandiehl.com/2007/03/13/i-dont-know-people/#comment-398</link>
		<dc:creator>nathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2007 20:09:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carma,
I just wanted to remind you that you still have that CD here waiting on you. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carma,<br />
I just wanted to remind you that you still have that CD here waiting on you. <img src='http://nathandiehl.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Carma</title>
		<link>http://nathandiehl.com/2007/03/13/i-dont-know-people/#comment-396</link>
		<dc:creator>Carma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2007 13:27:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After Quest, I started thinking about what you were saying and I'm glad you blogged because it made me remember.  I have friends that fit into three categories.  I have Christian friends, I have non-Christian friends, and I have friends that claim to be Christian but have been hurt by the church and no longer attend anywhere.   I struggle with how to minister to those who have been hurt.  I have one friend in particular who claims she is a Christian, but her lifestyle is the exact opposite.  I keep trying to gently point things out to her.  I don't want to give up on her, because I'm the only stable thing in her life.  It's hard, I agree with you there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After Quest, I started thinking about what you were saying and I&#8217;m glad you blogged because it made me remember.  I have friends that fit into three categories.  I have Christian friends, I have non-Christian friends, and I have friends that claim to be Christian but have been hurt by the church and no longer attend anywhere.   I struggle with how to minister to those who have been hurt.  I have one friend in particular who claims she is a Christian, but her lifestyle is the exact opposite.  I keep trying to gently point things out to her.  I don&#8217;t want to give up on her, because I&#8217;m the only stable thing in her life.  It&#8217;s hard, I agree with you there.</p>
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		<title>By: Todd Helmkamp</title>
		<link>http://nathandiehl.com/2007/03/13/i-dont-know-people/#comment-395</link>
		<dc:creator>Todd Helmkamp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2007 12:55:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Visit a nursing home.

Volunteer at a soup kitchen.

Visit a prison.

Volunteer opportunities abound, and that would be an excellent way to visibly demonstrate the love of Christ to those who don't know Him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Visit a nursing home.</p>
<p>Volunteer at a soup kitchen.</p>
<p>Visit a prison.</p>
<p>Volunteer opportunities abound, and that would be an excellent way to visibly demonstrate the love of Christ to those who don&#8217;t know Him.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
		<link>http://nathandiehl.com/2007/03/13/i-dont-know-people/#comment-393</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2007 05:12:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two tips: 
1) Keep your eyes open. Start seeing possibilities everywhere you are. Do you happen to see the same people week in and week out in your life activities - at the YMCA or a Starbucks? (even the workers - certainly they'll be the same people). Look AROUND you... at all times. 

2) When training me about evangelism, my Campus Life director Ric Reger taught me a valuable lesson: "Never assume." He says that you should never assume that someone has accepted Christ. 

I've found this to be great advice. Many times I'm convinced someone is a Christian because of the friends they have or the school they go to. But I have been surprised at the number of those people who actually don't have a relationship with God. Often - if you ask the right question you'll find someone who had accepted Christ but fallen away - and just needs a Christian friend to provide encouragement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two tips:<br />
1) Keep your eyes open. Start seeing possibilities everywhere you are. Do you happen to see the same people week in and week out in your life activities - at the YMCA or a Starbucks? (even the workers - certainly they&#8217;ll be the same people). Look AROUND you&#8230; at all times. </p>
<p>2) When training me about evangelism, my Campus Life director Ric Reger taught me a valuable lesson: &#8220;Never assume.&#8221; He says that you should never assume that someone has accepted Christ. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve found this to be great advice. Many times I&#8217;m convinced someone is a Christian because of the friends they have or the school they go to. But I have been surprised at the number of those people who actually don&#8217;t have a relationship with God. Often - if you ask the right question you&#8217;ll find someone who had accepted Christ but fallen away - and just needs a Christian friend to provide encouragement.</p>
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		<title>By: joe</title>
		<link>http://nathandiehl.com/2007/03/13/i-dont-know-people/#comment-392</link>
		<dc:creator>joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Mar 2007 20:11:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I experienced the exact same thing a while back!

I have started doing several things...

Whenever I am out and about I look for opportunities to talk to people. As soon as I find someone willing to talk, or who seems interested in a conversation, I talk to them. It means that a trip to the store takes a little bit more time, but it's worth it. Before I leave, I give them my email address and then I ask for theirs and ask permission to email them. I have found that a lot of people are open to staying in touch via email, especially if we discover that we have something in common.

Another thing I do is talk to people while I am out walking. If I see someone walking a dog, I talk to them about their dog (I'm usually interested in what kind of dog it is.)

I strike up conversations with and get email addresses of servers at restaurants (usually provided that they are male, but probably more important for you, considering that you are married).

One of the most important things I have discovered in this process is that I have to be genuinely interested in the other person. If I'm not, they can tell almost immediately. If I'm not interested at some point, or for some reason, I don't talk to that person. Otherwise, I'm setting myself up for trouble.

You are more than welcome to go on a walk with me sometime, or go some of the places I go and meet people. Just shoot me an email and let me know (I assume you have my address ;) ). And, I will be praying for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I experienced the exact same thing a while back!</p>
<p>I have started doing several things&#8230;</p>
<p>Whenever I am out and about I look for opportunities to talk to people. As soon as I find someone willing to talk, or who seems interested in a conversation, I talk to them. It means that a trip to the store takes a little bit more time, but it&#8217;s worth it. Before I leave, I give them my email address and then I ask for theirs and ask permission to email them. I have found that a lot of people are open to staying in touch via email, especially if we discover that we have something in common.</p>
<p>Another thing I do is talk to people while I am out walking. If I see someone walking a dog, I talk to them about their dog (I&#8217;m usually interested in what kind of dog it is.)</p>
<p>I strike up conversations with and get email addresses of servers at restaurants (usually provided that they are male, but probably more important for you, considering that you are married).</p>
<p>One of the most important things I have discovered in this process is that I have to be genuinely interested in the other person. If I&#8217;m not, they can tell almost immediately. If I&#8217;m not interested at some point, or for some reason, I don&#8217;t talk to that person. Otherwise, I&#8217;m setting myself up for trouble.</p>
<p>You are more than welcome to go on a walk with me sometime, or go some of the places I go and meet people. Just shoot me an email and let me know (I assume you have my address <img src='http://nathandiehl.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> ). And, I will be praying for you.</p>
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